Dear Mr Lee,
If you want to boost the birth rate, you must understand that working mothers need help. Not money, not maternity leave. We need someone to help look after the kids, cook and clean. The fact is that most fathers are not helping, because they are also very busy and have to work long hours. It is not fair to expect women to shoulder all the burden of childcare and work at the same time. If we can have good maids to help us, I am sure that many Singaporean women will choose to have more babies. Having childcare centers does not help because mothers still have to rush home to cook dinner and clean. Most of us are not superwomen. This is the reason why the birth rate is going down.
The Ministry of Manpower is not helping the employers of FDWs. The tragic story posted above is a good exampe. We employ maids without any knowledge of their past work history. This is a big risk, but many parents have no choice. MOM ignored our problems despite numerous feedback on their facebook page.
I sincerely hope that you can understand our problems. Otherwise the birth rate will continue to fall.
It has been 2 days since I posted the above comments. No reply. I posted the following comment today (22 Jun 2012).
Dear Mr Lee,
I sincerely hope that you have time to read these comments, or your admin staff can highlight our comments to you. Specialneeds Sg needs help. Full time working mothers like us, struggling to manage family and work every day, need help. Your ministers and MPs have consistently ignored our problems. That is why we are posting directly on your facebook page.
You said in May 2012 : "Singaporeans will always be our priority. This is the purpose of all our policies."
MOM policies are very unfair to employers. Read this page :
http://singaporemaid.blogspot.sg/2011/12/singaporean-employers-face-unfair.html
MOM's priority is clearly the foreign maids, not employers. We are Singaporeans, and we deserve to be treated fairly.
79.2% of employers have voted in 24 April that our concerns are being overlooked :
http://singaporemaid.blogspot.sg/2012/04/vote-are-employers-concerns-being.html
As citizens of Singapore, we deserve an explanation from you.
79 comments:
Dear employers,
Please help yourself by posting on the PM's facebook page. It is no use writing feedback to MOM now. Our situation can only have some hope of improving if you voice out your problems to the PM.
Thanks, Tamarind. Let us hope LHL or kakkis do not delete that.
Yes I wonder if PM reads all his facebook messages, or only those filtered by his kakkis.
Thanks for taking the lead, Tamarind.
Annie
Kei Lu has posted on PM's Facebook page too.
Thanks tam! Pls update us if any replies
Hi Tamarind
I just went on the Facebook page of LHL.
I notice that your post on his page (as above) HAS BEEN DELETED as of 3 pm , 20 June 2012, Spore Time.
What do employers say to this? PM's kakis trying to silence questions? As I see from Tamarind's post above, there was NOTHING rude or seditious. Why was it deleted?
I just viewed his facebook page at 4:27pm, my comments are still there.
Dear Tamarind
After reading your confirmation that your comments were still on PM's Facebook at 4.27pm, I went to check, using two separeate Facebook accounts. I am a total IT idiot, but I thought I should see the same as you did. But no, using both, one after another, (log out , and log in with different a/c) both times show at now 6.17pm, that there are 171 comments on the Father's Day entry. Your quote of the newspaper article is there, followed by one by Kei Lu. BUT your post on asking PM to look into problems (as your opening post in this blog) is not there.
Can you find it in PM's FB still? I can't.
I logged in using the tamarind tree account and I can see both my comments.
Now I logged in using another account, you are right, the second comment is gone. I posted it again, just to test whether it was really deleted by someone.
My reposted comments should appear after Tan Poi Eng's comments.
Obviously they do not want to look bad, especially on the PM's facebook.
A PM who can deem a by-election as not important will likely deem our worries as lesser importance.
Let us keep track of the posts that are not pleasing to the eyes of the administrators and see if and when they disappear.
I will be very thick-skinned. If my comment is deleted, I will keep posting it again unless they block me.
I looked through all the comments and found others complaining about education, prices of milk powder, deprived of scholarship, etc. I wonder if PM have time to read all the comments ?
I registered my child for childcare in my first skool early last year. I was put on wait list. I called up to check the registration status so far only to be told that there are more than fifty applicants before me! How far ahead in advance is one supposed to register?? I am expecting another baby in sept this year n I registered online for infant care in march. I intend to place my baby in infant care in jan 2013. I was told today, that for the infant care there are more than 60 applicants before me! It is so difficult for us to even get a CHANCE to dream of sending the kids to the childcare centres & we have to depend on the annoying maids to look after our children!! I wish the government would do something for us instead of talking about the birth rates!
Continued from my earlier reply: so we have to fork out salary of $450- plus $170 govt levy ontop of that additional fees for kindergarten ? They want more babies but no help is given to us desperate mums who do not trust maids!
I posted a new comment on PM's page today, also included it in my blog.
My message to the Prime Minister
I checked about 1 hour after posting my new comment. It disappeared.
I reposted it again. Was it deleted ? They could have just blocked the tamarind tree account.
It is 6.08 spore time. Tamarind, your latest re-post on PM's FB page is STILL there. Hurray! But why am cheering? Surely the admin staff know better than deleting? If it really gets deleted, Tamarind, write to Online Citizen about it.
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"It is 6.08 spore time. Tamarind, your latest re-post on PM's FB page is STILL there. Hurray! But why am cheering? Surely the admin staff know better than deleting? "
Just checked, my reposted comments are still there.
I am puzzled as to why my comments keep disappearing, while reposted comments remain. Isn't it easier for them to just block my account ?
Being an "open society", the PM's office which administers the FB a/c on behalf of PM (as noted on the page itself) would not want to block the Tamarind Tree FB account as there has been not anything illegal or political or religious inciting . If they blocked it, it would be too obvious that they are trying to silence the populace voice. By deleting some comments here and there, they hope no one would notice.
Keep checking back and see if any other comments that we know of get deleted at anytime.
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" By deleting some comments here and there, they hope no one would notice. "
They probably did not expect me to repost the comments again. People would notice if they keep deleting the same comments.
Carry on the good work , Tamarind. Cheers.
Yes, i salute you for the good work and for posting on PM FB. His people are not doing the work including halimah yacob. she practically disregard post in her FB too, when i posted she just ignore and answer other things from others more to her advantage. Terrible.
hi tamarind
just want to ask if you have any idea if domestic helpers can actually switch jobs to be cashiers/waitress and get a spass or work permit? my filippino helper is thinking of changing cos her sister is also wanting to come to work as waitress.
If MOM will allow them to switch, won't it create chaos as all helper will start jumping ship? just wondering...
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"Yes, i salute you for the good work and for posting on PM FB. His people are not doing the work including halimah yacob. she practically disregard post in her FB too, when i posted she just ignore and answer other things from others more to her advantage. Terrible."
On MOM facebook page, MOM staff also disregards comments by employers, but they readily help maids who complained. This is very unfair. That is why employers should post direct on PM's facebook page. Even if he does not reply to anyone, the whole world know that we have voiced out our problems, but those in power are not doing anything. This is better than sending emails which simply end up in their trash.
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"If MOM will allow them to switch, won't it create chaos as all helper will start jumping ship?"
MOM definitely does not allow a maid to switch job to a waitress while in Singapore. The maid must first have her work permit canceled, return to her home country, then re-apply to come back as a waitress. I believe that such applications are easily approved by MOM.
if easily approved then all maids will learn to be smart after been here for a while. plus the new rule of weekly off, i think we are all in for trouble...
Tamarind, your post plus those from others seem to have disappear again
Posts still there! Just checked. Spore time 5.06am 29 June 2012
Dear all,
Thanks for helping to check.
hi tamarind, maybe you can post on PM's wall again so that it is 'fresh' everyday rather under amidst all the 200 + comments which i dun think he even bothers to read. We will support your post.
OK will do that when I have the time.
Thanks Tamarind for speaking up for us, we need to have our voices heard! Since MOM is turning a deaf ear, we must stand up for ourselves or suffer under the hands of bad maids forever!
Last night I laughed at the news video of the new HK chief executive being heckled by HongKongers at a community centre. Mr Leung promised subsequently to address the woes of the citizens. When can this ever happen in Spore? When will the PM ever hear and listen to us?
Hi tam I assume no replies so far huh?
There are no replies so far.
Pm also promised to address our woes. I am only hoping that it wont happen only after i do not need a maid
Anonymous said...
Pm also promised to address our woes. I am only hoping that it wont happen only after i do not need a maid
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Well the pm is busy talking about wild boars problem in India.
Don't think your problem has a higher priority.
We made him the pm so he sets the priority
Tam, if my maid is leaving for indon for the 15 days holiday leave besides buying a ticket is there anything else I need to do for her? Just wondering if u know ;)
Hi, I need advise.
My maid just come for 3 months and she wanted to go back.
Call united channel and they only say bring her back.
I have ask how long my replacement will come but they are not able to answer. Poor service from the agency and don't bother to call back. Told me if I want to complaint can call the MOM
Leaving my poor confinement wife with 2 kids alone at home.
Spend money to get the maid, get the poor service never mind and the agency cannot give me a solution for the replacement.
Can I get the refund for the agency fees?
I feel not only getting 'bullied' by the maid and MOM's rules but also the agency.
I think it's time for us to stand up together, put up a group like how they have many many support groups in like states and all and get media publicity! That's the only way our voice will ever get heard!
We could do like an event/ non-profit drive. Invite some lawyers like they have for free legal clinics and set up a venue where concerned employers like us can gather, get advice, gain insight or just share their woes!
Either that or get into politics!
in today's newspaper,it says this
promoted
tan chuan jin
minister of state for national development
acting minister for manpower
i doubt PM even heard or take note of our woes. if one realises,ever since this blog was mentioned and became a avenue for employers who need help, maids' issues have been toned down and kept very much in the quiet. even MOM's letter about cleaning the windows reflect that they are aware of employers grievances.
as such,i can only conclude that nothing will change for the better for employers since mr tan's policies have been stamped with approval. i am vastly disappointed. it seems like it is only talk and some actions to pacify the people.
I am also disappointed when I read the front page news today. I also think that things are not going to get any better for employers of maids in the future.
I think things will get worse.
I thought my Indon FDW was good, in the sense she was quick to learn initially and was polite etc. but ever since she returned from home leave at the end of last year, everyything about her had gone down hill and remains there, despite encouragement ($100 increase in pay in second ternm of contract), counselling, threatening etc. She has become dreamy, forgetful, and the worst aspect she does slipshod unhygienic kitchen chores. She does not even have to do marketing nor any form of cooking except cook a pot of rice in the electric cooker. i cook for her. there are only 3 adults in the household. no children, no pets. What more does she not want to do?
despite encouragement ($100 increase in pay in second ternm of contract),... She has become dreamy, forgetful, and the worst aspect she does slipshod unhygienic kitchen chore.
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You have proven the point that money will not motivate but there are many employers who will persist in doing so and find to their disappointment.
What was the cause of her change of behaviour? If she is not confiding in you she is not trusting you.
The important thing here is what are you going to do?
Hope for things to get better after paying $100 more than the last time and getting lousier work?
Good luck to you
Oops :(
Quickly let her go :( bad sign.
My maid left us after 5 yrs n I got 2 children to mind .
At first I thought I cannot make it but after one week , it was manage able ...
She will continue to piss you off intentionally :(
Maid and our mind set are different n can never level with us.
Obvious case that she changed her mind to work in Sg.
Typical trick they love to do n love to spice thing up in your house :(
Words of advise : check your belonging now n also don't leave valuable things around .
Fellow Spore mummies,
I am in the same boat as you, having bad luck with terrible maids who have turned my life upside down with their nonsense. I am sure all of us will rather do without a maid if we have a choice. Now the situation is even worse given that our govt is also not on our side. Pls include me if you are organising anything to stand up for ourselves. (derene05@yahoo.com.sg)
Hi Tamarind,
Not sure if you know of what's the update on hiring Indo maids? 2 months ago, my agency told me that they have sort of put a "standstill" to hiring Indo maids because the SG govt may be implementing a policy where the employer have to bear the loan instead of the previous arrangement where the employer pays upfront and "deduct" from the maid's salary for the 1st 7 months. Has the govt finalised the policy already? Thanks!
Hi derene,
I have not heard any news about the policy.
I called a few agencies about a month ago, agency fees are still under $1000 and nothing about employer bearing the loan.
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"You have proven the point that money will not motivate but there are many employers who will persist in doing so and find to their disappointment."
Do not use money to try to motivate a maid who is performing badly.
However, for a maid who has been working hard consistently for years, we should reward her with money.
Thanks everyone who has commented on my "down hill" performer after home leave.
I have actually told her that she can leave if she can find a more suitable job, where she does not need to do marketing, no need to do cooking, no child or elderly minding, no pets to look after and with less tha 3 adults in the home. She said she was not having any problem, and acknowledged that she just is not doing a proper job as before. So how?
If I'm you, I will tell her to buck up else be prepared to leave. As you mentioned, it is a easy job. Lots of maids will want this job unless they fully intend to just enjoy their life here. After all, unless she doesn't want to stay here or she is so confident she can find the same type of work with higher pay, she is not likely to leave.
Put it this way, since you have no kids, you can do without a maid for a period of time. Since she's so unhygienic, is there really a big difference with or without her? When i had no kids, I couldn't really be bothered with how clean the house is, as long as it isn't really dusty, smelly etc. I only clean once a week.
Tamarind said...
Quote:
"You have proven the point that money will not motivate but there are many employers who will persist in doing so and find to their disappointment."
Do not use money to try to motivate a maid who is performing badly.
However, for a maid who has been working hard consistently for years, we should reward her with money.
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Money is not a motivator. It is a hygene factor. Motivation has to come from within.
derene said...
Fellow Spore mummies,
I am in the same boat as you, having bad luck with terrible maids who have turned my life upside down with their nonsense. I am sure all of us will rather do without a maid if we have a choice. Now the situation is even worse given that our govt is also not on our side. Pls include me if you are organising anything to stand up for ourselves. (derene05@yahoo.com.sg)
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THIS IS THE CORRECT ATTITUDE THAT MOST EMPLOYERS SHOULD HAVE.
WILLING TO DO SOMETHING THAN JUST COMPLAINING.
IN TODAY'S NEWS WE HAVE RESIDENTS WHO ARE UNHAPPY AND THEY WRITE TO THEIR MP AND FORMS A COMMITTEE TO PROTEST.
THERE ARE MORE MAID EMPLOYERS IN SINGAPORE THAN THE AFFECTED RESIDENTS.
ALL WILL COMPLAIN ABOUT AGENCIES, MOM ETC, ETC YET THEY ARE NOT WILLING TO DO ANYTHING ABOUT THEM.
WHAT DO YOU THINK?
What else can Sporean employers of FDWs do? Many have written to the press, to the MOM feedback, on PM's Facebook page, on MOM's Facebook page and on this blog so diligently and kindly set up by Tamarind. Attempts had been made in the past by persons to set up some sort of Employers' association, but were turned down by the Registrar of Associations.
Employers cannot gather to march to the PM's office in protest just like people do in HK and elsewhere. So what practical approach can we adopt to help alleviate the maid situation short of not being an employer?
Hi Tamarind,
Previously I used to read your blog and thought it was cruel but these days ur blog is the main thing that keeps me going. I just hired a maid recently and its been a total nightmare.I leave my baby in my mums house all the time. I took a maid so that she can help out with my mum in the daytime and ca come back and sleep in my house during the night.
1) Since day one her attitude is not right.She by herself took the unused room in the house which is the book room and sleeps locking the room which I find unnerving and I am not able to use the room at night.
2) Keeps talking back for every single thing which I really hate.
3) gets defensive for every single thing.
4) My mum kept complaining that she was always on the phone. I know I am not supposed to do this but I took her phone one day and saw that within 3 hours she is attending 8 calls from 4 different people.She has so many friends and relatives here.
5) Claims she likes babies but blames my baby for not going to her.
6) She came from a bunglow house looking after two old people who could do everything by themselves physically and therefore she claims she had no work there. but she had to go back to india for something and they had to find another maid and she wanted to come back. (thats how she ended up with me)
7) When my mum bathes she does not look after the baby.
8) Always walks around with a sulky face.Never seen her smile.Dunno if these matters.
9) Broke stuff and claim its not her fault.
After reading your blog I am motivated to go ahead and change the maid. Your blog is really good. Keep up the good work!!
Tamarind, is it okay if you could contact me directly at jularks@hotmail.com. I have a helper (co-employed by my spouse and his siblings) who has been with our household for a year. Her main role is to look after my elderly MIL and the house (and to which we don't require her to do much house-chores or cleaning). We have a house pet (dog) but we don't ask much from her regarding cleaning after him and such. She isn't at all perfect, fine, I can deal with it and it's been a year. But lately, I noticed my dog gave nervous glances over his shoulder when he needed to relieve himself. I realized, through trials and errors, he needed us - me or my spouse - to stay and accompany with him throughout his toilet routine and meals. This cycle keeps going on. And the dog's behavior alerts me. Now, the maid has stayed for a year. It's not that we are pleased with her so she has stayed with us for this long, it's just that we have been trying to give in or close an eye at her antics. But looking at our dog behaving is the last straw. We did try to seek approval with the other siblings to have a change of maid but they gave excuses, saying "It's okay, just bear with her antics for another year" and saving cost is another. You see, if she's slow, I don't mind. But her integrity and work ethics leave much to desire. If she bullies MIL(my MIL told me things about her) and the dog when my spouse and I are away for work, it will really break my heart. I came upon your blog long ago but I would never in my life imagining myself seeking a stranger's advice - you! I know this comes abrupt but I am at my wits' end and I just need a sound advice, that's all. Please help. Thanks. Yours sincerely, Mdm Tan.
After National Day, there have been a whole lot of speeches by various senior members of the govt to invite views from citizens on how to better run Spore in every aspect. Here is now the chance for employers of FDWs to meet their MPs and ministers when they call for meetings. Here is the ONE CHANCE that employers should not miss. If we do not speak up/write to them directly NOW, NOTHING WILL HELP US if we miss the boat.
Please, employers of FDWs do not just rant on Tammarind's blog. Take action now. Do the necessary to eke the ministers and govt on to look into the woes of employers , esp those with young children and elderly folks to look after.
please let me know if anybody wants to organise a petition. our PAP govt are seriously out of touch! were they voted in to serve us the native sngaporeans or the foreigners?? my email is rosnyus@gmail.com
Channel News Asia recently conducted a poll :
Vote : Are employers' concerns being overlooked ?
79.2 % answered YES. However, nothing has been done. I really wonder if petition will be helpful ? Anyway I will give my full support to anyone who wishes to organize.
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"Please, employers of FDWs do not just rant on Tammarind's blog. Take action now. Do the necessary to eke the ministers and govt on to look into the woes of employers , esp those with young children and elderly folks to look after."
Yes I absolutely agree. Employers who have bad experiences, please post here, and more importantly, email to the MP and ministers.
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"What else can Sporean employers of FDWs do? Many have written to the press, to the MOM feedback, on PM's Facebook page, on MOM's Facebook page and on this blog so diligently and kindly set up by Tamarind. Attempts had been made in the past by persons to set up some sort of Employers' association, but were turned down by the Registrar of Associations.
Employers cannot gather to march to the PM's office in protest just like people do in HK and elsewhere. So what practical approach can we adopt to help alleviate the maid situation short of not being an employer?"
The only solution is to NOT have any babies. However, for the elderly who needs constant care, there is really nothing that can be done.
LKY said : "If we go on like that, this place will fold up because there will be no original citizens left to form the majority."
I predict that this is definitely going to happen.
To the person who keeps reminding us about 2016,
I have deleted many of your comments because there is no need to keep repeating the same thing over and over again. I think employers already know what to do.
I also do not wish to turn this into a political blog. Please post in other websites instead.
Hi, im just another employer having bad experience like what others employer have. Who will stand up for our rights & alleviate maids problem?
Anyway, if anyone wishes to organise petition or solutions count me in. My email passion72design@live.com
Yes, we should do something about the employers' situations in Singapore now. There are nothing to protect us as employers in Singapore. I am going from my 2nd maid to the 3rd maid now in 2 yrs...
Costly live-in domestic maids.... employers are paying for trouble nowadays. What happened to those good, olden days FDWs who truly come to work for a honest income?
http://singaporeseen.stomp.com.sg/stomp/sgseen/this_urban_jungle/1292898/maid_stole_lied_about_beating_up_employer.html
My opinion is that this is the result of the NGOs like HOME and TWC2. They think that all maids want to work hard to earn money, which is not true. While there are maids who are honest and hardworking, there are also many maids who are lazy and great liars. The NGOs are often helping the wrong people. Maids are smart enough to know that they have the support of the NGOs, so they can easily take advantage of employers.
It is very unfair for the gahmen to allow organizations to be setup for maids, but NOT for employers.
Hi all,
Was feeling extremely upset today with all the maid issues. Had a terrible maid which I tolerated for 17mths till I cannot take it and decided to change or good. How terrible? Talks back all the time and can sleep while standing. Will sty in the toilet for hours pretending to e washing baby clothes.
So new maid came. Before employing her I told her repeatedly that she needs to take care of two young children.. But one goes to a full day child care and the other will stay with my mum. So basically she only assist. Not cooking required as we order ting kat.
Had two very bad experience with employing maids. all said willing to take care of children so arranged to come waited n all the cost, time etc was wasted. Came three days to one week told me wants to go back to agency don't like children..
So this time round with the new maid I was extremely clear about the work. There will be kids at home. Reason that she wants to leave is she is very afraid to be with my kids and she is sick. She said "I sick, I carry baby, drop her, how?". Please tell me any mummy around upon hearing this won't feel frighten! Does our government know that working mums is having all these stress.
Send her to agent, agent asked how often is she left alone with kids. Can't answer is only 30 minutes at most in a day. The time that my mum or me goes to the toilet.
Now I am so unwilling to get another maid. But I need to work so how?
I am writing to share my experience with my maid whom I sent back yesterday, 19 Sep 2012.
The maid had been with us for 4 months. We were willing to send her back despite the fact that she has 4 more months of outstanding loan with us.
This is because she had threatened me that she would not be held responsible if she were to do anything to my children (If we do not send her back). I was shocked when I heard that and my mind went blank.
We do not want to circulate maids who threaten employers with young children.
Previously, I had explained that we could not let her go yet because the new maid is not with us, and I am currently 3 months pregnant.
On 19 Sep, she was still unhappy with my explanation, she sat in my living room and started sulking and throwing tantrums, to put it mildly. Knowing my condition, she continued to press on with her questioning as to when she would be able to go back to Indonesia.
I did not have an answer as I was waiting for my husband to come back. She refused food offered, insisted that she could not eat because I looked angry with her. Alfi had previously been reprimanded for man-handling my 5 year old. She had dragged him roughly (in front of my MIL and neighbour) away from my MIL to adjust his uniforms when it was pointed out to her that she had worn it wrongly.
She also talked back openly and defiantly when it was clear
that she had made a mistake. She would make sweeping statements that she ate late when the truth was that we adults in the household eat after we feed our children. Then all of us would eat at the same time.
She wrote in her diary that we used derogatory words on her when we do not use such words in the household.
I make sure that our children will not catch and learn such words. Hence, I can safely say I have never heard any words being used in my household.
On top of that, she also stole from us the day she planned to leave(19 Sep 2012).
Being pregnant, I had to wait for my husband to come back early from work to deal with the situation.
When we checked her belongings, we found sets of clothings belonging to me she had folded neatly and kept under her other clothes. We also found money not belonging to her. She said she found the money accidentally and that she thought I was going to give her the clothes so she helped herself.
This is outrageous.
She then changed her mind and threatened to go back to the agent and told me I had no right to cancel her work permit. I took photos as evidence that she did not work on 19 Sep. She flared up at me and threatened to walk out of the door. How else do you produce evidence? By drawing on a picture?
She told me point blank that she came from the agent so she must go back to the agent.
I told her the reason we are sending her back : that we would rather forgo $1600 (her 4 month loan)than to have any children or elderly (whether Singaporean or PRs) to be in her hands- a maid who had threatened to harm her former employer’s young children.
The maid had adult supervision most of the time, whether it was my MIL or ourselves. However, what about the other young children who are left alone with maids who do not see taking care of them as a priority?
What is the support given by MOM for employers with young children in this instance?
Dear butter,
My heart ached when I read your a/c. You are very kind and generous sparing other would-be employers from this maid. Please do write to MOM to blacklist this maid.
Employers may like to know that MOM is supposed to come up with a 'standard' biodata form soon for FDWs coming into Spore. Apparently, agencies are supposed to be held responsible for the 'truth' in the biodata, which includes the employment history of the FDW, and the reason for not completing a contract.
Butter, you're really nice.
Some employers want to be nice and not recycle bad maids too if the loan are not eaten by agencies.
Wish MOM can come up with something better, be fair to employers.
Not sure why embassies and agencies are on the upper hands, not sure why maids can appear so 'vulnerable' when if fact they are lions cum wolves!
Why MOM and those organisations are so blinded and protective to foreign domestic helpers? Money comes from us, we have a big share in stress and miseries .... how many working women manage and live happily with their maids?
Yes. I totally agree with you . I have very bad experience with maid from Philip (first maid) . We treat her nicely and even told the urgency that my employer treat me so nice so that I can not tell them directly - I do not want to work here. So daring and easily to say that do not want to work due to homesick . Then after that understood from urgency , out understanding loan can not get back , etc . The maid just anyhow said to me - I have the right to leave if I do not work any more . My point here is that why the maids are so daring and irresponsible to say - do not want to work even though she was not familiar with her workload ... Minimised workload as reduced by half . ... They knew stronger support for them , but employers do not have ... And the gov also protect them ....
Hi,Sc, I have same bad experience with the maid from philip. Even she has not fully tried her best to take care of kids - one full day child are with school bus provide (5 years) + one kid (almost 3 years old) for three hours in pre-school . Nobody at home and me and my husband are working . She got the similar problem - asked to transfer and do not like children ... This job scope is clearly defined in application form . She does not know ??? Now pending for new maid to come ...
Reading through all these comments is a heartache. Me too I had an experience with our Indo DW, she's with us about 2-3 weeks, we treated her well same treatment as our previous maids... Just simple rules at home, no phones during working and she can use it when I back from work, to be fair with my family... My daughter told me that she's been calling the maid so long but did not answer instead she saw the maid talking to the phone. I had my reasons why I don't want maid carry phone as I had a bad experience before wherein my son almost knock by car coz maids using the phone and did not hear the car engine. This simple rules seems ignored.
Anyway, when we told her no phones during work, she agreed and she even gave her hand phone to me without asking her but after few days.. She's using another hand phone again and when I check her picture gallery... I saw she's using my things, lying on my bed and she denies about it where infact evidence is there. Anyway, we given her another chance and told her if we caught her again out she go.... But the following day she packs her things and told my daughter she's going back to Indonesia. Me and my husband went to the agency and told them what she did... Agency agreed she's going back to Indonesia provided that she pay her placement fee. So th next day we send her to agent it was Wednesday. But on the night of Tuesday she use another phone... All in all she has 3 phones.. Anyway send her to agent on Wednesday. But The next day Thursday I found out that my kids (daughter and son) Hari Raya money all gone, I quickly called the agency about it... Whe checked her bag but no money and she denies that she did not take the money. Anyway I called the police to investigate. Before the police comes she confess that she took the money and bought hanphones...
The sad part is the police only give warning which is very unfair for me and my family... This maid will do it again stealing from employers...and besides all the hassles, emotions (my daughter really affected by it because she is so excited to ount her hari raya money and yet its was stolen by the maid) the money spent for service charge which is unrefundable even if the maid fault... It is really unfair for Teh police just to giver warning... When I was thinking about my heart boils, I was even asking myself what is our right as an employer, called up MOM but answering machine is talking... When can we have an association for employers that supported by MOM... ????
May i know if there is any replies from the PM? May i trouble Tamarind to post on his FB again when you have the time? If you post, we can leave comments too right? If all of us are notified when it is done and leave our comments accordingly,somebody will finally notice that alot of people really feel strongly about the same thing?
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"May i know if there is any replies from the PM? May i trouble Tamarind to post on his FB again when you have the time? If you post, we can leave comments too right? If all of us are notified when it is done and leave our comments accordingly,somebody will finally notice that alot of people really feel strongly about the same thing?"
Hi,
There have not been any replies from the PM. My conclusion is that the PM does not read comments on his facebook page. I have seen many other people posting different issues without any replies. My advise is for employers to email directly to the PM.
Hi Tamarind,
Post your message to FB message page to PM. He sure replies. I got a reply from him for some other note. If you are planning to do anything about this issue, pls join me also in. I am also an victim in maid issues. Recently i am facing much trouble and stress.... pls joine me too.
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